Welcome And Listener Questions

Kieran 0:03

Welcome to the lifestyles of the Richesin and Famous. From design, fashion, and travel to pop culture and all the fabulous details in between. This is where luxury isn't just a look, it's a lifestyle.

Rug Scale And Custom Cuts

Melissa 0:24

So this is the eighth episode. I believe it. Done. I know it's fun. I like it. I think um it's been really interesting to see like what people oh, I want him to come sit next to me. To see what people respond to and everything. And you know, it's been interesting because I think you've gotten a lot more like fan mail than like the hater side of things. Um, and so I do think you should answer some of the questions that people have asked. So one of them is what is one design you don't see often? Like maybe one design trend, maybe. Also we love when people like ask specific questions and like give us specific feedback.

Todd 1:04

So yeah, one design trend that I don't see often. Yeah, I'm confused by that. If it's a trend, wouldn't that mean that I would see it often?

Melissa 1:13

Yeah, I don't know.

Todd 1:14

Maybe like um something that you do that you don't see other people do, maybe like I mean, I think the way that we size our area rucks is uh something that I don't see a lot of people do. And I I think that's the biggest mistake I see in design is scale of rucks. Um and the way that we fit them perfectly to a space. That's so important. I th I think a lot of people must just buy like off the rack or something, and that's just not what we do, and it really doesn't cost any more to make it right. So um like cutting it to a wall or cutting or like a foyer in the outer or notching it around the hearth, or we do a lot of that where we notch something around the hearth.

Melissa 1:59

Uh yeah, I don't think I saw that before you on its right, right.

Todd 2:03

It just it gives you the opportunity to have it the the right size. Um and I I've I've done this forever because the like the edge of an area rug is sort of the visual wall of the room. So when you have one that's three feet away from the walls, it makes your room effectively like six feet smaller, you know, because it would take three feet off of each side. So you push it as much as you can and it really expands your space.

Melissa 2:38

So do you think that's one thing that a lot of people do wrong is like having not just rugs, but in general, like sizing things?

Todd 2:45

Scale is something that I see wrong all the time.

Melissa 2:47

Yeah. I I think that's like a hard thing for people to know, especially with buying so much online. It's like, how is this gonna look in my space?

Todd 2:56

Yeah, and if you haven't physically seen it, even when you look at dimensions online, I think it's I I always have to then compare it to something else so I can see, okay, yeah, this is probably three inches wider than this chair I'm looking at here and a couple inches taller, that'll be about right. But if you don't do that, if you just kind of say that sounds about right, that's a mistake what can happen for sure.

Melissa 3:23

Which is why you measure, you put everything.

Todd 3:25

Oh my god, yes, we measure and measure and measure and measure. Yeah. And then when we think we've measured enough, we measure it again.

Melissa 3:31

But that's good, especially, you know, when you're spending money investing in these people because you want it to to work and to look good. Yeah.

Timeless Style Versus Fast Trends

Todd 3:39

Yeah.

Melissa 3:40

So okay, another question that we got was with there always being trends that come and go, how can I decorate so my furniture and decor has longevity?

Todd 3:49

I think timeless is the way to go all the time. And so I would buy um classic upholstery, super high quality. You want to spend as much as you can on upholstery because if you buy shitty upholstery, it's gonna last maybe two years. And a lot of times I see it where somebody's bought this bad sofa and they've had it for six months and it's already sagging in the middle. I mean, it's unbelievable the quality of stuff that's that you know is sold as good. And reservation hardware. So I I would encourage people to spend a lot on upholstery and try to get that right so that that lasts. And then take a risk with a cocktail table, take a risk with pillows, take a risk with lamps, you know, things that you can easily change. And that can really shift the way a room looks. Those those accessory things can really make a big difference in the way a room looks.

Melissa 4:52

Do you think, though, it's kind of in general good to not ever lean into like a trend, especially now. I feel like with Hindris and Instagram, it's so much faster. Like trends.

Todd 5:05

Oh my gosh, it's so fast. And I mean, trends aren't necessarily bad, and that just because something's trendy doesn't mean that it's not going to be classic. Sure. You know, 20 years ago, I saw this color palette, probably 25 years ago, I saw this color palette start to emerge that was soft blue, you know, this really soft, pretty blue. And so we were using it. We'd used it for like three years and done beautiful work with it. And then I thought, is that is that trendy? Because this feels like like mauve from the 80s, right? Yeah. And but that color palette is still good. Like it it was a trend that turned into something that's I consider timeless. You know, that that's just when it's done well, I think it could be really soft and pretty.

Melissa 5:59

Well, it's interesting, I don't know that how you would even say it, but now like timeless classic is kind of trending.

Todd 6:07

You're right. I think it is. Yeah. Uh I I think that that has been popularized by the the American classic that is Ralph Laura. And you know, he has made that uh timeless style his his signature, and people have latched onto that.

Melissa 6:24

Yeah. Um so people are sick of like the trend stuff.

Todd 6:30

I think people are tired of trendy. I I I mean, we've seen kind of that gray color palette evaporate, thank goodness. And yeah, we're seeing people who have uh white, like really neutral color palettes wanting to make them richer by adding in some color or adding in a deeper tone. Um so I I do think that there is a return to this comfort, to the like saturated, yeah, but layered. It's it's about feeling, it's about a space feeling warm and inviting and comfortable. And uh when a space is rooted in tradition, I think that that will always feel good. That's like the room where we're sitting, in my opinion. Yeah. Um, and this is a great, I think, example of mixing something that's modern and trendy, like the acrylic cocktail table and with something that is the most traditional sofa you've ever seen in your life. You know, I mean, like you just think of a traditional frame and you think of a camelback sofa, and it's not something that I would use for a lot of people, but we loved it. And I think in this space it worked really well.

Melissa 7:47

Yeah. Well, and this space does feel very like, I mean, even though it's very elevated and you can tell, like, you know, it's expensive. But it's it's very like cozy and comfy and yeah. But in the layers, I think that's the other thing that I'm seeing go away is like the minimalist. Like the there's nothing there. It's like very hotel room where there's like nothing on the counters, nothing on shelves, right?

Todd 8:12

Right. But the the accessories to me tell the story of the people who live there. And some people don't like that clutter, and I I understand that and respect it. Um, but to me, they just give a a a place life and uh it sparks conversation. Where did you find that? That's so interesting, or why that piece? You know, I th I think that's it's it's interesting to be able to discuss those sort of things.

Aspic And Congealed Salad Memories

Melissa 8:41

Yeah, I'm agreed. So, okay, then the next one is this is funny because I think we talked about this in episode one. So, what is an aspic and a congealed salad? Gross. So that was episode one. We I don't remember why we were talking about it, but yeah, what it what is an aspic?

Todd 9:01

Okay, so an aspic, I'll probably get the definition wrong.

Melissa 9:05

You still get chastised.

Todd 9:06

Exactly. I'll get chastised because I'm not a culinary genius as well as a brilliant interior designer. So um an aspic is a congealed, like a jello type. You've got a visitor.

Melissa 9:18

Hi Louie. My girlfriend's loving it.

Todd 9:26

He will leave hair all over you, so just be prepared. That's a good boy.

Melissa 9:29

It's gonna be my uh today. Okay, so a congealed salad.

Todd 9:34

Yeah, it's it's it's it's a type of congealed salad. The one that I used to love, there was a chef in Knoxville that made this tomato aspect that I thought was delicious. It it had the consistency of congealed applesauce. Oh it was a tomato aspect. Yes, it was so good. It was tangy and sweet. Did you just eat it like yeah, Ujella? Eat it, eat it with the spoon, yeah. It it was always served on like a little lettuce leaf. And he he worked at the country club and he he sir it was served with literally every single dish. You got this tomato aspect. I guess it was like his signature dish. But it it was it was kind of the consistency of congealed jello.

Melissa 10:18

Is it like a palate cleanser?

Todd 10:20

Maybe that's what it is, but it has definitely like the tomato aspect had definitely the taste of fresh ripe tomato, so it had a little lemon in it, right? Yeah, I just can't And it it it was it had it looked like congealed applesauce.

Melissa 10:36

Ew.

Todd 10:37

It was yummy, delicious. But I love a congealed salad. Like, I mean, that's you know, it's like growing up in the South and the Methodist church and the like every Sunday, the the fellowship hall where everybody brought stuff, you know, to eat. And there was always a delicious like salad with marshmallows, or my mom makes this wonderful one that is grapefruit and uh oranges.

Melissa 11:02

Oh, okay.

Todd 11:03

Yummy. And then she does one at Christmas that is uh it's a cranberry congealed salad with orange. It's so pretty, and she has all of these wonderful old uh jello molds, so they're like individual that she puts it in, and they're so pretty when she undoes them on the plate. It's just crazy.

Melissa 11:22

All right, I'm gonna try to make one. I don't think I've ever made one.

Todd 11:25

I mean, some people don't like the consistency of it, you know, like that's all I can think about is that um and I've had them that I don't like, like tuna congealed salad.

Melissa 11:35

Gross.

Todd 11:36

Yes.

Melissa 11:36

What the the movie, the Christmas movie that the uh the lady brings it and it has cat food in it. That's what I'm picturing. It's like I don't even know. It's like a green jello mold. It's in um Christmas vacation.

Todd 11:50

And it she put cat food in? Yeah, because she's like, you know Oh my mental.

Melissa 11:54

Yeah, but that when you say congealed salad, that's what I'm saying.

Todd 11:57

Well, that's a shame that that movie has uh ruined that.

High End Looks On A Budget

Melissa 12:00

Ruined it for me I'll have to try it. Okay, so um moving on from congealed salads. Um, can you touch on shopping? Where can I shop for high-end pieces that won't break the bake?

Todd 12:12

Vintage.

Melissa 12:13

Vintage, yeah. Way so.

Todd 12:15

Uh well, I mean, look for uh antique malls in your area. There look at consignment stores. I I think, you know, uh estate sales. Estate sales up for all of those things are uh places where you can find really amazing products, like the sofa that you're sitting on. Is uh it's a 1980s baker sofa that is not made anymore. It's one of my favorite frames that they've ever done. And so we bought this at an estate sale for like $250 and then redid it in this uh linen velvet. So now it looks like it was something that was super expensive, and once upon a time it was.

Melissa 12:59

Would you source things for people? Like if someone called you and they're like, I'm looking for a vintage, whatever, or more.

Todd 13:06

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would if I was at a place and saw it, that's how I do antiques, is we go to shows, I take pictures, I've got my measurements of what I'm looking for, and I know what somebody's wanting. So I'll say, here's an option. Um, it's this much money, yay or nay. And they need to decide right then because you cannot drag your feet on that.

Melissa 13:32

You either have to buy it or it'll be gone.

Todd 13:35

Yeah, exactly. And plus I have to move on.

Closet Talk And Layering Rules

Melissa 13:38

Right. Because you're busy, right? Booked and busy. Um, somebody said, I like how natural this show feels. Thank you. Thank you. Just genuine conversations about design, travel, and culture. It's refreshing and easy to listen to. We appreciate that. Um, and then someone says, you know, we want to see more of your closet and your fashion. People do love to see what you have on. I don't understand that. I mean, I think they just want to like know everything.

Todd 14:08

Well, it's very passionable. Well, it it's it's not like intentional. I think it just happens. And uh Bobby and I are constantly like looking for stuff. So I mean, we may see an amazing dinner jacket, and most people probably wouldn't buy that because they would think I don't have anywhere to wear it.

Melissa 14:31

Yeah.

Todd 14:32

But I would buy it because I would want to figure out a place to wear it. And it may hang in the closet for a year before that date happens, but then it does, and buddy.

Melissa 14:41

And then it's like excited to wear it. Yeah. But you don't wear things like on repeat very often.

Todd 14:47

No, I don't because I think I have a lot of clothes and I try to like do it different. And and it it happens differently just because, well, one thing that happens to me a lot of times is my shoes are downtown and my shirts at the house, and so yeah, I have to come up with something that's a a different version of that because half of my stuff's in one place and the other half's in another.

Melissa 15:16

Right. Virtual problems.

Todd 15:17

Yes, for sure. For sure.

Melissa 15:19

But do you think that there's like a couple of staples that everyone should have? Like you have, you know, a couple pairs of good jeans, a couple pairs of slabs.

Todd 15:26

We sort of did that for Derek.

Melissa 15:28

Yes. Fit it in. Your husband? Nah. You know, he has no clue how to shop.

Todd 15:33

Well, I sent you like these are some great things that you have to have. And I think it was maybe there was a great pair of boots, there were a couple of pair of high tops, there was a great pair of loafers.

Melissa 15:46

Loafer, like some Oxfords.

Todd 15:49

Yeah, some some like check shirts, a denim shirt, and then I think I added like a trucker jacket.

Melissa 15:56

Yes.

Todd 15:57

And uh then I told you what to look for. Yes, some nice belts, and then I told you what to look for. Like you could add like a fun sweater to this, or you could add, you know, another pair of shoes. Like this might be the next shoe that I buy.

Melissa 16:13

Yeah. So in wardrobe and in interior design, I think layering is kind of your thing. But I think that's what makes something look, like I think I even, you know, realize that. Like that's what makes it look nicer.

Todd 16:28

Interesting. Yeah.

Melissa 16:28

Right. Versus just wearing like a sweater, like having the little collar pocket. Exactly.

Todd 16:35

Yeah, and the spell is another layer.

Melissa 16:36

Like all those layers. Yeah. So that's that would be like your advice to people shopping for whatever they're shopping.

Todd 16:41

And buy what you like when you see it, not just because you got a wedding to go to. I think have the thing to wear to the wedding waiting in your closet already. You know, that's that's where you get tripped up, I think, is is buying stuff just for. And we buy stuff when we travel a lot because you're presented with different uh different stores and different merchandise than you might have in in your home town where you live. Yeah. Um, and I always uh one of my my really good clients and a friend of mine, and she actually used to work with us in our shop, she said, you need to dress for the life you want. Yes, not the life you may have. So I I that made a lot of sense to me. She always wore these really bright, like lily pullets or things, and she always loved to go to the beach, and she was just very vibrant and happy. She was blonde, she looked great and that stuff. And um, so that's what she was dressing for was the life that makes her happy. And I I think that's yeah, that's good.

Melissa 17:49

I mean, I tell that's a good little motto. Yeah, I tell my staff that because I think you're also like especially if you're younger, you're judged by depending on how you look. And so if you look professional, if you you portray that whatever, then you're gonna be taken more seriously. So yeah.

Todd 18:06

Exactly.

Melissa 18:06

I think that's good.

Todd 18:07

It's a it's a it's a leg up on and it's a shame that you have to sort of do that actually. I mean, there's there's a little bit of shallowness to that theory, right? That you shouldn't have to do that. You know, you should just be accepted for who you are. But I think it just gives you immediate credibility, some immediate respect.

Melissa 18:27

Yeah, if you look nice instead of in like a the Lord jumpsuit and flip-flops. Yeah. That I I was gonna buy you in Marco, and you said no.

Todd 18:38

They were awful.

How Kieran Started Designing

Melissa 18:39

No, I wear them all the time on the island. Okay, somebody says, um, enjoy watching. Y'all are funny. How did you get started in your industry?

Todd 18:49

Oh my gosh. So I I think I've told that story before.

Melissa 18:53

Yeah, we've told that story before, but um, I don't know, you could say it again.

Todd 18:57

Like, well, I mean, I I got started basically because um my grandmother was sick, she had leukemia, she was in the middle of redoing her house, and she was working with a designer here in Knoxville, and uh I had always been interested in interior design. I was, you know, reading Antiques magazine in the Smithsonian when I was in second grade, you know. I I was just born with it. Yeah, I was just always into it. And um, so we were in a meeting with that designer. She had to leave. She really wasn't paying full attention to my grandmother. And she was a she was someone who uh she still does work today, but um she was someone who was it's like her way or the highway. This is what you're do not do you like this, or we could do this or this or this. It's this is what we're gonna do. This is what you yeah. And um, so we were in this uh showroom, a fabric showroom, and um she had to leave, and and the woman who was helping us said to my grandmother, you need to fire her and hire him because he's way better than her. And I was like, Don't put me on the behind me. And she said, Don't worry about it. I will walk you through the process. And she did. She sort of held my hand. Um, and she was an amazing woman. Um, she's passed away. Uh, but she was a great mentor for me for getting started, and she built a confidence in me that I still have. And and um That's great. Yeah. So she saw a little natural talent, and that was sort of my first job, and that was when I was 16.

Melissa 20:40

That's so cool. And I think one fun fact that people may not know about you is you're also a painter.

Todd 20:46

Oh my god. You well, you've seen some of my work.

Melissa 20:48

Yes, it's amazing.

Todd 20:50

I used to, I used to love it. I I had a great oil painting instructor when I was uh in in high school and college. And I wish I could find another person who did that because I I really enjoyed it and uh I did some fun things. Uh, you know, there uh I guess I was a copyist. So, you know, I would I would see a Monet painting and then I would paint my version of it. And um, then she would guide me on how to do that. And I I loved it. It was once a week in the evening, you know, we would paint for two hours, and um it it was a great thing, but I I've never been able to find another person who who taught that way. And uh so you don't paint anymore? I don't paint anymore. I I would love to be able to do that.

Melissa 21:42

Oh my gosh, you should. I'll buy your first piece.

Todd 21:45

I I mean I've I've gone I've literally gone to the artist supply place, bought paint, bought brushes again, bought paper.

Melissa 21:54

There's a brush right here.

Todd 21:55

I know this this old brush. I love this old brush, but uh and I just And then you don't do it. I I just ha can't find the inspiration to do it. Yeah.

Melissa 22:05

What if I was like, Will you paint me this? I'm trying to like what if I found something? Would you paint it?

Todd 22:10

I I mean, I don't even remember the technique of that's why I need somebody to say, okay, you've got to glaze your canvas this way and or prime it this way, and we need to start with the line drawing, you know?

Melissa 22:21

Yeah. So I mean I think it'd be like riding bike.

Todd 22:24

You would just I I still do like pencil and ink stuff. You know, I can still do that, but just like with a regular ballpoint pen, I mean I you also design rugs.

Melissa 22:33

You're getting ready, you're just I mean, that's just something that goes along with what I do. I don't think everybody does that though.

Todd 22:40

Well, not everybody wants to take the time to do it. And not every client wants to wait. True. Because it's yeah.

Melissa 22:46

It's a process to just buy something off the rack.

Todd 22:49

Exactly. Or whatever. And you know, a c a custom rug can take a year.

Melissa 22:53

Yeah.

Todd 22:54

At least. But worth it. Yes. By the time you do the design process, by the time you get the s the color matches, by the time you get a sample woven, by the time you have another sample woven for changes, and then by the time you make the rug, it can be a year.

Champagne Notes And Taste Tests

Melissa 23:10

But is everything right now taking longer than normal anyway?

Todd 23:13

We are in a uh, and this has just happened in the past couple of weeks. Um, I feel like we are moving into a COVID uh era like situation with delays on products.

Melissa 23:29

That's crazy.

Todd 23:30

And stuff in it people are telling me, almost all of my vendors are telling me, anything that you need from India, uh, which there's so many fabrics that are made in India. So many fabrics. You you may think it's like how could that possibly be an Indian-made thing? But the very sophisticated things, lots of things are made in India, and uh I can't get them. I don't know when I'm gonna be able to ship this to you because of this war. And so it's crazy.

Melissa 24:04

Yeah, it's impacting.

Todd 24:05

Yes, it is.

Melissa 24:06

Yeah, okay. So another thing uh is what uh is something that can always be found in your refrigerator?

Todd 24:14

Champagne.

Melissa 24:14

And ketchup.

Todd 24:17

I mean, I was looking in this refrigerator here for Diet Coke this morning, there was one left. Yeah, I mean we hadn't been here in a month. Yeah. So I I couldn't even remember what clothes were down here.

Melissa 24:27

But you don't even drink that much champagne, right?

Todd 24:29

We I really don't drink a lot at all. Um if if we go out to, you know, to a nice restaurant, I'll have a glass of champagne or like an old-fashioned or something like that. But that's that's about it. I don't really drink a lot.

Melissa 24:42

Do you have bourbon in the house?

Todd 24:43

Yeah.

Melissa 24:44

Oh, okay. So bourbon, bourbon is in the house and champagne is in the fridge with ketchup.

Todd 24:48

Yeah. No ketchup. You have to be a good uh, you know, a good host.

Melissa 24:52

Yeah. I I wanted to see, which we're gonna maybe we'll do this when we go to North Carolina, but I kind of want to get like a low, middle, and high champagne and see if we can tell the difference.

Todd 25:04

Yes.

Melissa 25:04

So I'm going to Napa and um we were debating, we wanted to do like at least one bubble and one, or not one, uh several, you know, whatever. And so I was debating about what to do for a bubble in Napa. And so like Shondon is there and domain canaris or whatever. And I was like, Shondan, you can just like buy that in the grocery store. Like, that's nothing special. But I had a very special bottle of it, and it was amazing. Right. I want you to taste it.

Todd 25:33

I think temperature makes a huge difference in a taste of champagne. Like it's got to be literally almost frozen. Like it has to be really cold.

Melissa 25:42

Yeah, I agree.

Todd 25:44

It just adds to that Christmas. So Christmas, Christmas. Yeah. So even like a lesser expensive champagne is probably gonna taste better if it's super cold.

Melissa 25:54

Okay. Well, we're gonna, I really want to film like us doing it and see if we can identify.

Todd 25:59

That sounds good.

Melissa 26:00

I just had to do one in Florida and it was a non-alcoholic beer and an alcoholic beer, and I got it wrong. And I I mean, literally, I wouldn't put money on that it was the opposite. Right.

Todd 26:11

Both tasted awful, but um so do we have any other questions?

Handling Haters And Critique

Melissa 26:16

So, yeah, so now we're gonna move on to like some of the mean stuff. And I'll start. I'll start with myself. Some lady was like, tell her to shut up.

Todd 26:25

We well, to that lady, she needs to realize that you are the person who asked the questions. I'm the co-host. Exactly. And you are the one who came up with this idea, and you are the one who made this possible. So uh rude.

Melissa 26:42

So I try to not speak as much though, and let you talk. I think one thing that was a misstep is I didn't really introduce like who I was or like whatever. Do it again. Okay, so I'm Melissa Leshball, and I own South Bay Marketing, a marketing company that works with you. Um, and so that's you know, I mean, we kind of said how we met, but I still don't think people knew like who I was or like why tell I was sitting here talking to you. Right. But just from working with you, I knew there was this need for people to like hear longer form of you kind of talking about, you know, design and fashion.

Todd 27:17

Well, I mean, it's your baby, so uh you get to say whatever you want.

Melissa 27:21

Well, apparently not, because the Karen's at home tell me to shut the fuck up. Oh well. I'll be I'll be mindful of how much I speak.

Todd 27:31

And then I also got criticized for what I was wearing in episode one with like I had a hat on and Well, you had just suffered a major injury that this is why you should never judge somebody for what they're wearing. Right. Or how they look or how they act, because you don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Melissa 27:49

Right.

Todd 27:50

And you had uh scarf. You can't see it now.

Melissa 27:55

Good, I'm gonna get lasered.

Todd 27:56

But you had you had just had uh shingles, yes, and it left a mark. So you wore the baseball cap to cover it up, which I thought you looked super cute. Thank you. And uh so somebody was just mean and said, Well, you're dressed inappropriately, but what would you rather see? A gigantic bandage on your hair?

Melissa 28:16

Right, then they would have been like that lady's a leper.

Todd 28:18

Yes, exactly.

Melissa 28:19

Get away from it. So But I think that's those have been like the kind of mean things about me. But you honestly, like most of the stuff people will criticize, like you hang art wrong, or right?

Todd 28:31

Or it's like you are um you overdesign or the the thing that really gripes me about negative comments is the I don't like that. I would never do that. Good for you, but you don't know what the what the charge was. Right. So you have no understanding about what the whole house was like, you have no understanding about what the client asked me to do, you have absolutely no understanding of how much money they had. Yeah. Yeah. You're sitting in your mama's basement critiquing, you know. I just I don't get it. I I don't understand how you cannot see something and appreciate it for what it is, even if you don't agree with it. But the the the things that rub me the wrong way are where it's like that's totally wrong. Well, you don't you didn't you don't understand that this had to be handicap accessible.

Melissa 29:38

Right.

Todd 29:38

Or you don't understand that they only had thirty dollars to do this with, right?

Melissa 29:42

And then you're like making fun of it.

Todd 29:44

Yeah, and then you're making fun of it. So that ask a question about how you got there. Like why did you why did you do that? Not just that. Not that's wrong or that's hideous or I don't like that, but why did you choose to do that? Because that I can explain, right?

Melissa 30:03

I think one of the most polarizing things was the camo pants. People either Oh, they hated the camo pants. I love them. I don't do that.

Todd 30:12

They're still in my closet.

Melissa 30:13

I thought they were amazing. Um, but people lost their mind over that.

Todd 30:16

But some people didn't. No, some of people loved it.

Melissa 30:19

That's polarizing it. Yeah, like, yeah.

Todd 30:21

Yeah, it was totally split down the middle. Yeah.

Melissa 30:23

And speaking of pants, the bulge, we get a lot we get a lot of comments about that also. What am I supposed to do? You're just blessed in all ways. Love it. I mean, you know, I do think when like we open up and are more like honest in how, you know, I think people like that. So we'll see what the the haters have to say about the next thing.

Kieran 30:50

Yeah.

Melissa 30:50

But do leave us a comment. Definitely let us know what you want us to talk about next, and um be sure to tune in to the next one.

Todd 30:57

And there's some really exciting stuff coming forward.

Melissa 31:00

Yes. So say like what we're gonna do.

Todd 31:02

We are going to market. We're gonna do a podcast at market. Uh Melissa's gonna be filming me in my process at market, shopping for antiques, shopping for new things, communicating with clients on what might work for them that we're seeing there as fresh merchandise. Yeah. Um, and then she'll be capturing our after hours stuff. So dinner and our hotel and drunk. Not gonna happen, whatever.

Melissa 31:29

And yeah, I'm gonna that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get you buzzed, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna read the comment. So stay tuned for that.

Todd 31:39

It'll be good. Yeah, it'll be good.

Melissa 31:41

All right, that's all.